The Numinous Podcast
The Numinous Podcast is a show about intuition, spirituality and the mystery of life. The host, Carmen Spagnola, is an intersectional witch and clinical hypnotherapist who has smart, soulful conversations with interesting people. The lineup is diverse, the topics are eclectic, and the people are down-to-earth (mostly).
Episodes

Tuesday Mar 22, 2022
Tuesday Mar 22, 2022
What is "collapse awareness"? How do we navigate collapse without losing our joy? What skills are needed in times of prolonged periods of overwhelming stress? This episode is an overview and recap of a topic I've talked about every year (multiple times) since the start of this show in 2014. Here, once again, is my annual report on the state of collapse.Find a round-up of past collapse episodes here.
Preparing For A Beautiful End, Geez Magazine (Winter 2014), Utne Reader (Summer 2015)
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Sunday Mar 06, 2022
Sunday Mar 06, 2022
Today, I’m going to make a few people really happy because this is the Bruce Springsteen Niche Episode that more than a handful of you have been waiting for. The episode where I explain the long-lasting appeal of Bruce Springsteen as told through select Springsteen tracks arranged in order of progressive maturity of narrative voice. The journey takes us from frustrated youth in a small town, to emergent adult getting into trouble, an adult desire for love and reconciliation with the past, deepening radicalization as the hardships of life are revealed to be so often caused by oppressive systems of class and hierarchy, and finally a swell of hope and resilience as a more mature voice of elderhood emerges. Features 15 of his 60+ albums. I have created this playlist in Tidal but I’m going to add a list of each track and the specific album it appears on - because the specific recording matters. This is a musician who is known for tireless touring having played over 2,600 concerts since he signed with Columbia Records in 1972. But of course, he had a career before that - Bruce Springsteen has been the front man of a rock and roll band since his first gig as a 17 year old with his band called The Castiles in 1965 and he’s never had any other job since. Never had a workin man job. Not a day. But his dad did. His dad had lots of jobs, it was hard for him to keep jobs. Partially because of declining industrial jobs around New Jersey intensifying in the mid-60s, but also because Bruce’s dad struggled with alcoholism and undiagnosed depression and schizophrenia, and that became a defining feature of Bruce’s life and his music, wrestling with intergenerational demons and the mirroring of one family’s life in the larger decline of America as a country and an idea at the end of the 20th century. Follow along with the songs with a free trial on Tidal (credit card required) or search the following recordings wherever you get your music, (possibly even YouTube). Playlist Growin’ Up, Greetings from Asbury Park, N.J. (1973) Born to Run, Born To Run, (1975) Thunder Road, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band Live 1975-1985 The River, The River (1980) Working on the Highway, Born In The USA (1984) Johnny 99, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band Live 1975-1985 (1985) Badlands, Darkness on the Edge of Town (1978) Dancing In The Dark, Born in the USA (1984) I’m on Fire, Born In The USA (1984) Human Touch, Human Touch (1992) Brilliant Disguise, Tunnel of Love (1987) My Hometown, Born In The USA (1984) Born In the USA, Born In The USA (1984) Bring ‘Em Home, We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions (2006) The Ghost of Tom Joad, The Ghost of Tom Joad (1995) Devils & Dust, Devils & Dust (2005) Shenandoah, We Shall Overcome (2006) Blood Brothers, Greatest Hits (1995) O Mary Don’t You Weep, We Shall Overcome (2006) Pay Me My Money Down, We Shall Overcome (2006) We Shall Overcome, We Shall Overcome (2006) This Land Is Your Land, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band Live 1975 - 1985 (1986) Reason To Believe, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band Live 1975 - 1985 (1986) Better Days, Lucky Town (1992) Hello Sunshine, Western Stars (2019) References Covers and Springsteen Songs by Other Artists Blinded By The Light, Mannfred Mann's Earth Band (1976) Because The Night, Patti Smith (1978) Because The Night, 10,000 Maniacs (1993) Because the Night, Co.Ro (1992) Movie: Blinded By The Light, Gurinder Chadha (2019) Netflix: Springsteen on Broadway Album: Traveling Wilburys, Vol.1 Pete Seeger on the Johnny Cash Show: Bring Them Home (1970) Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band Live at C.W.Post College, Greenvale NY (1975) Autobiography: Born To Run (2016)

Wednesday Dec 15, 2021
Wednesday Dec 15, 2021
Maris Bergrune is a ritual animist, a spirit worker, a sound medium, and singer/musician. I’ve taken two of her programs - one on Norse animism and one on seidr mediumship and we’ll talk about them in detail today. Maris teaches skill development in intuitive perception, boundaries and discernment, and offers a very good foundation in animist ritual and relational practices with the Other Than Human worlds. She focuses on developing healthy relationships with spirits and ancestors and also on accessing self-sovereignty and voice. As you’ll hear in this interview, her practice is characterized by this very clear intention to partner with only the most compassionate aspects of spirit. I find her approach very grounded and practical; and she’s clear that this approach is not a way to bypass the challenges of humanity but are rather offers ways to be deeply resourced while facing these challenges. Here's her website: https://livingvoicemedicine.com Click here for her program, Gather at the Well: Norse Ritual Animism Resources Mentioned: Betsey Bergstrom Tom Kenyon Annette Höst Seed of Yggdrasill, by Maria Kvilhaug

Friday Dec 10, 2021
Friday Dec 10, 2021
I'm thrilled to welcome to the show Nicholas Pearson, author of several books including, Crystal Basics: The Energetic, Healing, and Spiritual Power of 200 Gemstones. Nicholas studied mineral science in university and worked for several years at a museum featuring the largest mineral collection in the southwestern US. In this episode, Nick explains the science of why and how crystals work including concepts like entrainment, amplification and coherence. Check out his website and links here: www.theluminouspearl.com www.linktr.ee/theluminouspearl www.facebook.com/TheLuminousPearl www.Instagram.com/theluminouspearl https://www.innertraditions.com/author/nicholas-pearson/ https://www.amazon.com/Nicholas-Pearson/e/B01E4TQMJU

Saturday Nov 13, 2021
Saturday Nov 13, 2021
My guest today is Becca Piastrelli, author of the new book, Root & Ritual: Timeless Ways To Connect To Land, Lineage, Community and the Self. It’s a charming, full colour, illustrated guide to fundamentals of creating connection with spirits of place and ancestors. I’d describe it as a fresh update on modern self-directed spirituality because it foregrounds how white feminism of the past and today has a tendency to appropriate spirituality from anywhere and everywhere. Becca’s book clearly aims to recognize white privilege, give credit, and walk humbly on the spiritual path. Find out more about Root & Ritual here. Find out more about Becca and her podcast, Belonging, here. Find out more about Constellation work here.

Wednesday Nov 10, 2021
Wednesday Nov 10, 2021
Elaine Alec is a co-founder of Alderhill, an Indigenous-owned-and-led company of leading experts in the area of Indigenous Community Planning. She’s led comprehensive community planning and engagement processes, been a political advisor, and recently the bestselling author of Calling My Spirit Back which links a personal examination of her lived experience to a much broader overview of serious sociological concerns of national importance for people in Canada and beyond, along with tangible steps to address them. I also know that Elaine and her family share the same strong commitment to co-parenting and secure attachment in a blended family as I do, and I wanted to jam on that a bit. Content warning: Discussion of cultural genocide and the legacy of Indigenous residential institutions in Canada. Learn more about Elaine and the book, Calling My Spirit Back, here. Find out more about Alderhill for Indigenous community planning and engagement here.

Tuesday Oct 26, 2021
Tuesday Oct 26, 2021
Today I’m speaking with British Columbia record-breaking pumpkin grower, Dave Chan. Dave has grown the heaviest pumpkin in BC’s history at 1,911 pounds! Dave has been growing for many years and finally achieved his dream and I’m thrilled to have him on the show today to share all his secrets. Stay tuned for a Rubenation at the end. GiantPumpkinsBC.com (to see Dave's pumpkin!) BigPumpkins.com The Great Pumpkin Commonwealth Master Carver, Scott Cully, who appeared on the Johnny Carson Show in 1985, inspiring Dave's lifelong passion for pumpkins

Monday Oct 11, 2021
Monday Oct 11, 2021
Toi Smith is my guest today! Toi is a business and growth strategist, a writer and teacher. She's also host of an online community called Business For The People for entrepreneurs, creatives, healers, and guides trying to do business differently. Toi also works with mothers who desire to return to themselves, and Black women who want more joy and pleasure. toimarie.com businessforthepeople.com Sylvia Federici's books Combahee River Collective Statement American Capitalism: A History (Cornell University podcast) RAVEN Trust is the place where I give a percentage of my income every month if you're interested in helping support legal challenges to fight for Aboriginal Rights & Title in British Columbia. Reciprocity Connects is where I've pledged to make payments to the local nations whose territories I live upon.

Tuesday Oct 05, 2021
Tuesday Oct 05, 2021
Today’s episode is especially dedicated to all the parents out there of tweens and teens who are exploring their gender identity. Paria Hassouri is a pediatrician, mother of three and writer whose work has appeared in the NY Times, the Los Angeles Times and the Huffington Post. She and her family live in LA, where she practices pediatrics at Cedars Sinai Medical Center. And she’s the author of the book, Found In Transition: A Mother’s Evolution during her Child’s Gender Change, a very frank, sometimes painfully honest account of parenting a transgender teen. Paria chronicles what amounts to a dual transition: as her child transitions from male to female, she navigates through anger, denial, and grief to eventually arrive at acceptance. Blindsided by her child’s gender identity, Paria is also forced to examine how she still carries insecurities from her past of growing up as an Iranian-American immigrant in a predominantly white neighborhood. Follow Paria: pariahassouri.com Buy the book: Found in Transition: A Mother's Evolution During Her Child's Gender Change Instagram: @laparia Twitter: @pariahassouri Contact Paria Hassouri, M.D., at Cedars Sinai Medical Group

Saturday Sep 04, 2021
Saturday Sep 04, 2021
Taraneh Erfan King is a registered counsellor with a specialty in expressive arts and a broad background in psychology, body-centered practices, and mysticism, including her hereditary lineage of Sufism. Born in Iran, she immigrated to Canada as a child with her family, and has lived and worked in several parts of the world including Guyana, France, Switzerland, Tanzania, and Sri Lanka. Her book, Conscious Grieving: The Path of Awakening Through Loss, is a compassionate companion for all grievers and a source for poetry and prayers you'll return to again and again. Visit Taraneh's website mindonspirit.com for more information about her programs and services, and find her book online at major outlets as well as your favourite independent booksellers. Follow her on Instagram @mindonspirit Check out The Numinous Network for all my current offerings.

Thursday Aug 26, 2021
Thursday Aug 26, 2021
My guest today is a trusted friend, Oliver Choquette. Oliver is currently a Psychology student at the University of Victoria. His training and expertise comes from various sources: college, university, and private classes. He has been working in clinics as a support person for over 10 years. He is a passionate reader and researcher of many topics: history, philosophy, political science, psychology, and sociology. And at the end of the day, I have trusted him with my child as a skilled helper providing emotional support for a number of years. As the parent of a 17 year old trans son with ADHD and autism diagnoses, who struggles with both anxiety and depression, I wanted to talk to Oliver about the intersection of gender diversity and neurodivergence. And because it’s not just my son – I literally don’t know an LGBTQIA+ youth who does not present with some form of neurodivergence or at the very least some diagnosable mood disorder such as anxiety or depression. I hope you enjoy this candid, non-expert, real conversation. Accounts I follow on Instagram for psychoeducation: @neurodivergent_lou @sensoryhuman @the.autisticats @fidgets.and.fries @pixiesbigwhy @autism_sketches @iampayingattention @the_mini_adhd_coach @lifeinautismworld @adultingwithautism @drdevonprice @the_queer_counselor @autism_unmasked @busybeingdisabled Oliver's Research Links Carter, B. (2021). Impact of social inequalities and discrimination on vulnerability to crises. Kia, H., Robinson, M., MacKay, J., & Ross, L. E. (2020). Poverty in lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and two-spirit (LGBTQ2S+) populations in Canada: an intersectional review of the literature. Journal of Poverty and Social Justice, 28(1), 21-5 Executive Skills Questionnaire- Peg Dawson & Richard Guare Giovanardi, G., Vitelli, R., Maggiora Vergano, C., Fortunato, A., Chianura, L., Lingiardi, V., & Speranza, A. M. (2018). Attachment patterns and complex trauma in a sample of adults diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Frontiers in psychology, 9, 60. Strauss, P., Cook, A., Watson, V., Winter, S., Whitehouse, A., Albrecht, N., ... & Lin, A. (2021). Mental health difficulties among trans and gender diverse young people with an autism spectrum disorder (ASD): Findings from Trans Pathways. Journal of Psychiatric Research, 137, 360-367. Rommelse, N. N., Franke, B., Geurts, H. M., Hartman, C. A., & Buitelaar, J. K. (2010). Shared heritability of attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and autism spectrum disorder. European child & adolescent psychiatry, 19(3), 281-295. Schnarrs, P. W., Stone, A. L., Salcido Jr, R., Baldwin, A., Georgiou, C., & Nemeroff, C. B. (2019). Differences in adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) and quality of physical and mental health between transgender and cisgender sexual minorities. Journal of psychiatric research, 119, 1-6. Craig, S. L., Austin, A., Levenson, J., Leung, V. W., Eaton, A. D., & D’Souza, S. A. (2020). Frequencies and patterns of adverse childhood events in LGBTQ+ youth. Child abuse & neglect, 107, 104623. Cuevas, A. G., Ong, A. D., Carvalho, K., Ho, T., Chan, S. W. C., Allen, J., ... & Williams, D. R. (2020). Discrimination and systemic inflammation: A critical review and synthesis. Brain, behavior, and immunity.

Wednesday Aug 25, 2021
Wednesday Aug 25, 2021
Today’s fantastic guest is Dr.Cyndi Brannen, one of the world's preeminent scholars on Hekatean Witchcraft. After a successful career in academia and healthcare, Dr.Brannen transitioned to focusing on reclaiming the sacred feminine after she became convinced that mainstream psychology was not sufficient to lead to personal wholeness. Her work focuses on personal healing through depth psychology, herbalism, rituals, meditations, and exploration of the deeper self. She founded The Covina Institute, a soul school dedicated to the pursuit of wholeness through structured programs of study and transcendent experiences. Dr.Brannen is the author of the bestselling books, Keeping Her Keys and Entering Hekate’s Garden. Mentioned in this episode: • Dr.Sarah Isles Johnstone's Hekate Soteira: A Study of Hekate's Roles in the Chaldean Oracles and Related Literature • Thomas Moore • James Hillman • Erich Neumann Check out Hide Tanning 101 with Fern + Roe!

Sunday Dec 13, 2020
Sunday Dec 13, 2020
This special episode includes a 30 minute trancework exercise. I stack 4 different spiritual hygiene exercises, one after the other, to connect with earth, water, air and fire. This episode is a complement to my Yuletide Stocking Stuffer program. Inspiration for some of the techniques in this exercise come from: • Diane Poole Heller (Competent Protector terminology and trauma-informed pedagogy) • Philip Shepherd's Radical Wholeness work • Laura Day, intuitive coach • Dara Silverman and Amanda Ream, Somatics For White Racial Justice Organizers • The Strozzi Institute • generative somatics And of course my nearly decade-long experience as a Clinical Hypnotherapist. Hope you enjoy it and find something in there of use to you!

Monday Oct 26, 2020
Monday Oct 26, 2020
Lindsay Tunkl is an artist and the author of "Origins & Endings: Seeing Yourself Through the Apocalypse". It's a divination deck and self-reflection inkblot kit that helps us grapple with the most pressing questions of our time. In this conversation, we explore the intersections of art, healing, therapy, intuition, fear, collectivism, divination, and living in choice during apocalypse times. Find the Origins & Endings Divination Book and Card Deck here. See some of Lindsay's artwork here including some of the PreApocalypse Counselling installation here. Connect with Lindsay for coaching at intothedeepcoaching.com. Follow Lindsay on Instagram to learn more about her magic and Tarot work, as well as her current adventures.

Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
Sometimes A Wild God is a powerful poem written by storyteller, author, wilderness vigil guide, and poet, Tom Hirons. In this episode, I ask the poet the impolite question, "What is your poem about?" It leads to a conversation about collapse, grief, wilderness vigil, the wyrd, the loneliness of modern masculinity, the lifetime work of wholeness, and the prospect of hope as a deity. Find Tom's writing at tomhirons.com Purchase stacks of his poetry and prose at Hedgespoken Press hedgespokenpress.com Adorn your abode or altar with Rima's art by visiting her site: rimastaines.com And learn more about their life in the off-grid storytelling theatre run from a 1966 Bedford RL lorry, converted to be a home and go-anywhere stage. (For real.): hedgespoken.org Resources mentioned in this episode:Dark Mountain ProjectOn Poetry, by Glyn MaxwellIn The Skin Of A Lion, by Michael OndaatjeBy Grand Central Station I Sat Down And Wept, by Elizabeth Smart Learn more about The Numinous Quest Online here. Learn more about the Threshold community here.

Friday Aug 28, 2020
Friday Aug 28, 2020
I'm talking with Mimi Young about clairolfaction, wonderful plant allies for pandemic times, and how to work with tea in a magical – even ancestral – way. Mimi is a shamanic intuitive and founder of Ceremonie (@shopceremonie), an esoteric brand focusing on in-person and online core shamanic and occult education, Remote Shamanic Readings, and plant potions for skin and aura. Mimi works with a blend of modalities including core shamanism, plant spirit healing, chao magick, and Chinese esoterics, with a focus on healing through shadows, dream work, divination, ancestral connection, and psychic development. She is also a neurofeedback practitioner (@openmindsperformance), where she supports others in accessing their peak via neurological resilience. Check out all of Mimi's offerings here. Follow her on Instagram: @shopceremonie Find out about doing neurofeedback with Mimi here. Learn about joining the online Mystery Mentorship Program here. The book she referenced is For All The Tea In China, by Sarah Rose. Follow me on Instagram @carmenspagnola Check out my Intuitive Business (And Life) Planning Workshop

Thursday Aug 27, 2020
Thursday Aug 27, 2020
Bear is a life coach, artist, and social justice educator who helps socially conscious humans align their actions with their values. In their coaching and teaching, they apply a feminist, anti-racist, anti-capitalist lens. In this episode, I ask them about their gender journey to using they/them pronouns, and we talk about interlocking systems of oppression, call out culture, and wanting healing for people who cause harm without necessarily wanting to be a part of that healing. Content Warning: We do touch on sexual violence, capital punishment, and more, but we also take stretch breaks and pauses for breath as we do so. Remember to pause the recording if you feel yourself tensing up or becoming very activated. Bearcoaches.comUndoingpatriarchy.com Caliban And The Witch by Silvia Federici Combahee River Collective and How We Get Free: Black Feminism and the Combahee River Collective by Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor Alternate ROOTS alternateroots.orgInfo about the online version of ROOTS Week Selected Poems of Nikki Giovanni Killers Of The Dream by Lillian Smith The Farm: Angola, USA 13th, Ava DuVernay bell hooks on “white supremacist capitalist patriarchy” Whiteness At Work, Desiree Adaway with Jessica Fish and Erika Hines Beverly Daniel Tatum, author of Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together In The Cafeteria? on diversity as an aftereffect of a lifelong commitment to the self-named struggles of people of color Philly Stands Up zine Beyond Survival book "The Opposite Of Rape Culture Is Nurturance Culture" and Turn This World Inside Out by Nora Samaran “No one enters violence for the first time having committed it.” -Danielle Sered, quoted by Mariame Kabe

Friday Aug 21, 2020
Friday Aug 21, 2020
Jasmine Richardson and Eliza Robertson are an astrology team who make their home online at KosmicTonic.com. Today we’re talking about what the astrology looked like leading up to 2020 that might have revealed something big like a global pandemic was coming, and looking ahead to the outlook for the rest of 2020 and beyond. How did we get here and where are we going? We begin with a resource round up of highly recommended modern astrologers to follow and learn from: ISARKaitlin Coppock at Sphere and SundryNina GryphonDemetra GeorgeChris Brennan - The Astrology Podcast Gray CrawfordBarbara Hand Clow - Journeys Through Nine DimensionsFortune’s Wheelhouse PodcastWesly Feuquay - Psylogia We also look at what stands out to be aware of for Fall/Winter of 2020/21. We look at Mars Retrograde (Sept 9 - Nov 13), possible advancements in science, America's progress on its' Pluto return, and eclipses at the end of 2020 (Nov 30 and Dec 14) which set the tone for 2021. Book consultations with Jasmine and Eliza at kosmictonic.com and follow them on Instagram @kosmictonic and on Twitter @kosmic_tonic Register now for my Intuitive Business (And Life) Planning Workshop on September 26, 2020.

Monday Aug 10, 2020
Monday Aug 10, 2020
Eric Tyrone is the founder of Soul Dreamers and the creator of the "Get Woke In Your Dream-Time" Masterclass. In the past, Eric ran a non-profit called "Awakening Through Art", founded a mindfulness App, and was a co-facilitator of a nationwide meetup called EcoTuesday. In this episode we talk about the purpose of dreaming, how to interpret your dreams and heal through dreamwork, and we even do a little on the spot interpretation of a slightly anxious dream I had about a tarantula and my son. Listeners can save $100 off his 4-Week “Get Woke In Your Dream-Time” Live Group Masterclass by using the coupon code: DREAMS333 Find the next start date at www.soul-dreamers.com Follow Eric on Instagram @_Soul_Dreamers Find out more about the Threshold community here.

Sunday Aug 09, 2020
Sunday Aug 09, 2020
Darius Mills is a Conjure Oils expert and to be honest, probably the one of the most charming guests I’ve ever had. In this interview, Darius shares how he used hoodoo conjure magic to manifest a fully paid international move. We touch on Jesus, quantum physics, intergalactic beings, ancestors, and how to make a honey jar. Follow Darius on Instagram @dariusmills91 to find out when his next Conjure & Create program begins (at time of posting, Sept 2020).

Classic Episodes
The Numinous Podcast has been around a long time and cross-pollinates a lot of topics.
Check out these top downloads to get the lay of the land:
• Ep.64: Learning To See In The Dark
• Ep.61: Healing The Abandonment Wound
• Ep.127: Moon Magic with Sarah Faith Gottesdiener
• Ep.118: Patti Elledge on the Neurobiology of Attachment
• Ep.120: Alexandra Stein on Disorganized Attachment in Cults & Totalitarian Regimes
• Ep.161: Collapse in a Nutshell with Carmen Spagnola
• Ep.155: Growing Giant Pumpkins with Dave Chan
• Ep.151: Oliver Choquette on the Intersection of Gender Diversity and Neurodivergence
• Ep.149: Spiritual Hygiene for the Holidays with Carmen Spagnola





